Added: Aug 27, 2008

From: windham666

Duration: 3:8

don't forget to rate comment share, demolish, annihilate etc.YOU NEED TO TRY THIS METHOD TO REALLY UNDERSTAND ME.so, my friend QualiaSoup made a fine video about how and why he rejects, quite properly, supernatural events. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f15PNrk94kg i opened my big mouth and left some comments indicating my belief in a certain method of "dowsing" - that it is real and not supernatural. the rub is whether i am doing this, making the needle move despite my best efforts not to, and fooling myself into believing it is caused by natural forces other than my all natural self. THOUGHT SERIES 1) (before during and after dowsing) i can control my actions, by intentionally committing an act; holding the rod steady. i am holding it steady. it lines itself up with the water line. it was not me because i just told my self to hold 'er steady and i did truly act on that thought. thus i deduce an unknown force of nature must be causing it to move.THOUGHT SERIES 2) (kicks in right about now) Scientifically, it is settled; there is no natural force acting on the rod. There is no ion flux or galactic ray beam or electromagnetism or anything. not a damn thing. you were not able to control your body. you moved it. you played a grand trick on yourself, fool. your body did what you wanted and blinded you to your action to give you the result you wanted.THOUGHT SERIES 3) lurching, creaking noises, grinding gears 666error code 07&#)*@&$@#*)&$*#@@%%&^&%&later, rabidape picked up the ball and sort of offered to devise some scientific tests, in an effort to make me rich! my goal is to obtain assistance claiming the randi prize million dollar challenge, by proving the witch can dowse!

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windham666 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - in the comments on qualia's video, you will see i got clobbered by a hardcore engineer type for this same basic idea. clobbered! smack. pow. bam bam.but i am innocent!

QualiaSoup Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - Thanks very much for making this video, Windham. It doesn't satisfy me personally, due to the lack of scientific controls. The ideomotor effect involves only the minutest (often subconscious) hand movement - it's impossible to determine the steadiness of your hand in this footage. Using a pipe would produce the same effect if tilted. Indeed, many dowsers use such a pipe in their apparatus.I'm open to believing this works if scientific trials support it. So far none have. But thanks again. ;^>

BizzyLizzy132 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - In the UK dowsing is actually done a lot.They usually use a a twig of wood in a "Y"shape.

littlebear1963 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - My father was a water diviner. People from my environment asked him when they wanted to have a fountain in the garden. Water has some special qualities. Normally from the molecular structure it should be a gas. We speak from an anomaly about the dielectric qualities of the water. The water content of the human being is about 63%.Electromagnetism must be the reason that it is feasible. That would be logical.

eternalundylnglove Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - it's a miracle

windham666 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - thanks you too. I know this is not a scientific test. my point is more to show that sometimes rational skeptical people can be fooled by their senses. Boy I am still fooled. So i am hoping a test could be devised to see if this "dowsing" of water lines is completely and totally operator influnce.

dogpatchdebbie Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - thats pretty wild:)

ThetaOmega Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - Did you say there are electric lines, and you are using a steel bar?You know any specifics about the electric line? Voltage, current?

whisky3alpha Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - I read up a little on this and scientific tests have shown it does not work. I don't believe the scientific test because grandpa said it worked and he was like the most grounded person I ever knew.. but he was a farmer from a long line of witching farmers.. anyway.. check it out - there is money involved for proving it works and I like the robot idea!!

aZeroGodist Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - I've no probs with water dowsing, think thats its perfectly natural, if you can use a hand-held device for finding nails by electomagnetics. I would think that flowing water with minerals inside would produce a mag-field.

windham666 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - in the first part, there is a 7200 volt power line, plus 48 volt phone and cable. in the second part - there is only water in a plastic pipe. no electricity.yes its steel bar, regular mild steel.

windham666 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - well that is where i was headed, zero, except i got blasted. the science apparently says there are no such energies between the steel rod and the water or ground. the science according to randi and shermer is, this is all a mind trick, that the operator is causing the movement without knowing or believing he or she is causing it. up above, qualia notes, its called the ideomotor effect. but i ain't giving up yet! i need the million bucks.

aZeroGodist Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - lol

larryishere1 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - suspend it freely on a pulley (kind of like a closeline) and pull it across the water. that'll make the money

windham666 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - thanks for that, i always figured the kiwis were a canny bunch

mungbeanman Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - Heh heh, good fun. Richard Dawkins debunked water dowsing in a program called Enemies of Reason. It's probably here on YouTube somewhere.

PeacefulApe Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - Powerful demonstration ! 5/5 video.

AmonAmarthRRocks Says:

Sep 28, 2008 - I know this is true, a guy at my work he digs and lay pipes and stuff, he knows all about this! And this is one of his technics!

croozer351 Says:

Oct 18, 2008 - So what's stopping you collect Randi's million dollars? Oh that's right, it has to REALLY work.

fractal420 Says:

Dec 4, 2008 - Lets look at the facts:He knows where the lines he is looking for are.The rod happens to 'mark' the spots he knows already exist.Now ask yourself, Could he repeat this exactly if he didn't know where the magic lines he's looking for are?

windham666 Says:

Dec 4, 2008 - Homer, I said that, straight up. I also said it works in your yard too. My neighbors yard. Yards I have never been to before.Have you tried it or are you just blabbering?

GothicJump Says:

Dec 6, 2008 - We don't need to try it, that's the thing. It's your word vs., well, logical's word. Just think, if this did work why isn't it anywhere? Why don't electric companies use it? I'm sure they'd want to, it'd save them lots and lots of money. James Randi proved a dowser wrong looking for zinc, all you've done is try to prove your word, shown no proof... I mean, why would that be pulled towards water holes? It wouldn't that's the thing...And how dumb are you, you can't control your subconscious.

RemoteInfluencer Says:

Jan 6, 2009 - Nice

miksedene Says:

Jan 7, 2009 - The effect is called the ideomotor effect. Its the reason ouija boards work (in a way). It's a very interesting phenomenon. Multiple magicians use it in their acts. Derren Brown for instance uses it in several illusions. Tube or google it, tis very interesting.

miksedene Says:

Jan 7, 2009 - this effect does depend on you knowing where the water lines are of course, or at least, thinking that you do.